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Old 02-10-2008, 10:38 AM   #11
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Here is archive paper about the Lazarev
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Old 02-11-2008, 09:24 AM   #12
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Nice, only one problem, it's in Russian

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Old 02-11-2008, 10:07 AM   #13
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It's a fotjcopy from a archive file, where written the personal data of the KIA pilots of 261 mixed flight division. The red marked about Lazarev. The pilot of 760 Fighters Squadrone, the Komsomol member from 1941 year id nr 13570378. Place and date of birth 1922, Kalinin region, Zaraisk area, village Zaruch'yevo. The name of the commissariat where he was called to the service ( probably later he lives in Moscow area with his father)- Military comissariat of Zaraisk, Moscow area. Then the date of accident 21.2.43 KIA in the airfight. Then place: St. Pol'yarniy Krug, Kirov's named railway district, Murmansk area. Then the family address: Father, Lazarev Aleksandr Pavlovich, Moscow area, Zaraisk, the workers town, house 1 appartment 2......
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There are a lot of people, I have noticed, that are offended by the recovery of bodies from a relic site. People need to understand that not everything is known about dig sites and the recovery of the former occupants, crew members, pilots, and so on is usually on accident. The Russian war machine had 10 times the artillery that the Germans brought with them so bunker sites whether hardened or dug and left forgotten after being shelled into oblivion are going to reveal their contents to their investigators. This relic site is one of those. As gruesome as it was it was also very educational. This is what preserving history is all about!

I was telling my wife that there are times when I look at things like this and wish I lived in Europe East or West just so I can have a reason to go to Wal-Mart and buy a metal detector. To you Russian relic hunters I want to say thank you for opening your country to me and showing me your relics!

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Old 04-12-2008, 03:00 PM   #15
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There are a lot of people, I have noticed, that are offended by the recovery of bodies from a relic site. People need to understand that not everything is known about dig sites and the recovery of the former occupants, crew members, pilots, and so on is usually on accident. The Russian war machine had 10 times the artillery that the Germans brought with them so bunker sites whether hardened or dug and left forgotten after being shelled into oblivion are going to reveal their contents to their investigators. This relic site is one of those. As gruesome as it was it was also very educational. This is what preserving history is all about!

I was telling my wife that there are times when I look at things like this and wish I lived in Europe East or West just so I can have a reason to go to Wal-Mart and buy a metal detector. To you Russian relic hunters I want to say thank you for opening your country to me and showing me your relics!

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At least the peoples dug not only in Russia, other countries like ex-USSR ( Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus etc) and a ex-socialist republics like Poland and Hungary has their own reach military history....
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Incredible!
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That is absolutely incredible. I still can't believe how well preserved the body is! Fascinating. It just makes the war so much more "real"!

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It really is amazing! And I couldn't agree more... seeing these pictures reminds us that war really is hell.

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Truly amazing pictures, makes you wonder how well preserved the bodies of the tank crewmen who drowned in Russia during WW2 are preserved, as some have remained frozen for long amounts of time.

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Another one home. Well done to all involved in the recovery.

Are there any photos of Sergeant Lazarev's grave at Chupa cemetery??

Thanks for sharing.


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I notice his feet are missing - were they found in the wreckage of the cockpit?
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