The list I have is from the Puchalski / Wawrzynski reference book on this decoration.
Unfortunately neither Wojciech Klos nor Franciszek Harasim are named on the list of recipients of the Cross with Swords.
Regards,
Tony
The list I have is from the Puchalski / Wawrzynski reference book on this decoration.
Unfortunately neither Wojciech Klos nor Franciszek Harasim are named on the list of recipients of the Cross with Swords.
Regards,
Tony
The classic answer to this question is to get familiar with the genuine article so that the counterfeits will become apparent when they crop up. Of course, easier said than done when one doesn’t have an authentic one on hand to study. Nonetheless, the same old advice applies – buy from a trustworthy source, ask for knowledgeable opinions (i.e. post pictures on this site!), look for the correct patina and wear commensurate with the age of the item, etc etc.
Yes, the documents were in the same format, although they noted the grade of the decoration, and also pictured the cross with swords. Later I will post pictures of the various award documents (at the moment the forum is not allowing me to attach them to this message for some reason).
Good question. It was up to the recipient if he wanted to buy a miniature. The notification of your award arrived for free, but if you wanted the goodies you had to buy them! This practice was not unusual in pre-war Poland. I will post additional information on this topic later . . . stay tuned
The old “dumbbells” method (I never thought of them in this way!) was adopted by the Poles from the French. These “belki”, “szpilki”, “zawieszenie” pins are seen on the market occasionally. But generally a scarce item as in Poland these were phased out of use starting in the late twenties with the advent of the new “hook and eye” ribbons that were suspended from a cord threaded though the uniform. It’s worth noting that as the Cross and Medal of Independence was issued after the new regulations were put in place, so technically these would not be a correct way of suspending the decoration.
Regards,
Tony
Thanks for checking Tony I really appreciat it![]()
[QUOTE=A.J. Zawadzki;93994]The classic answer to this question is to get familiar with the genuine article so that the counterfeits will become apparent when they crop up. Of course, easier said than done when one doesn’t have an authentic one on hand to study. Nonetheless, the same old advice applies – buy from a trustworthy source, ask for knowledgeable opinions (i.e. post pictures on this site!), look for the correct patina and wear commensurate with the age of the item, etc etc.
thank you Tony, could you lend me yours to get familiar with please.![]()
Time to revisit this thread as there is plenty of ground yet to cover.
The matter of obtaining the actual decorations was briefly touched on earlier. As mentioned, it was the responsibility of the recipient of the award to purchase the ‘decoration package’ themselves.
Attached below is a letter issued by the Committee of the Cross and Medal of Independence to the widow of a major who was awarded the cross of independence in 1931. The 1937 dated letter requests that the sum of 19zl be paid into the committees account in order to purchase the decoration and award diploma. There is also a request to complete an attached questionnaire and mail it back to the committee’s office in Warsaw.
I will scan one of these questionnaires along with some other related documents in subsequent posts. Pictures of a standard ‘decoration package’ will also be posted. Stay tuned . . .
Regards,
Tony
Here’s a fascinating little ad run by Cross of Independence maker Stanisław Zydalewicz. It appears that he only produced the crosses. Zygadlewicz crosses are identified by the eagle in the center of the obverse face being stamped in relief rather than recessed into the cross. These crosses are quite rare.
Recipients of the Cross with or without swords and medals had the option of purchasing their crosses from whatever maker they wished and did not need to purchase them from the Committee, which to my understanding offered National Mint and Gontarczyk produced decorations. This ad also caters to those looking for ‘replacement copies’ of the decoration so that the official issues could be safely stored away. As we know, replacement issues were offered for all of the higher state decorations and these are now also very much sought after by collectors.
As the possession of state decorations was illegal for anyone who was not awarded them it’s certain that some proof would have been required that one was entitled to purchase a copy. So it probably wasn’t too easy to just add 1zł more and pick up a cross with swords!
Regards,
T.
If only those were the prices today...
It is so interesting add from before WWII, and there are people who are looking at it, and talking about it. I wish I could buy one of each lol.
Mariusz