Need help on this entrenching tool

[ZERO]

any ideea about this shovel . thank you adrian.

[JPhilip]

Hello,
too bad the wooden handle is broken.
Considering its features, this shovel could have been produced during or after the Great War.
No markings at all ?
Thanks

[ZERO]

to much rust on she . about model ,,,,and contry did produced this shovel

[ZERO]

this is another shovel a have and she have a nice stamp . any ideea about she .thanks.

[37Webbing]

Well both shovels are based on the Cpt. Linnemann patent. ( From 1870) But I doubt they are that old. A licensed product from the early 1900's. Linnemann produced shovels for: Denmark, Russia, Germany, Austria and numerous other countries.

[JPhilip]

First shovel is most likely WWI german
second one with pointed blade is from the austro-hungarian empire....most likely austrian due to its features.
Thanks

[Sokol]

Although the second one is German made, by Vogel and Noot, it is most likely for the Austrian army, due to the shape. http://www.vogel-noot.info/index.php/weiter_en

[JPhilip]

Hello again,
Sorry to disagree with you Theo, but Vogel und Noot is an austrian company....here's a part of their history taken from the link you provided...

1872
Friedrich Vogel, Hugo Noot and Hermann Rührlein establish their first factory in Wartberg/Mürztal (Austria) in the form of a steel finery, a forging hammer and a sheet rolling mill. The first products are spars and shovels.

The second shovel posted is austrian made and meant for the austrian army within the austro-hungarian empire. A lot of them saw service in the Wehrmacht...
Thanks

[Sokol]

LOL you are right! I have read the city as "Wartenberg", which it is not

[ZERO]

thank you very much , can you tell me some thing about the year ,,,, in your opinion in what year is product the shovels .